Started watching MGScanlon three today and Dan basically says don't bother with anything just the sneaking conform, and I constantly hear similar sentiments from other members of the coiffure.

Don't get me wrong, the sneaking arrange is cracking and I did use it, simply only it certain situations... because if you employ the camo correctly y'all are near invisible almost all the time. I remember this seems empty-headed that anybody writes it off then easily but cause footsteps tin can be heard.

Seriously though, people need to use the camo more, information technology only takes a second to swap to at the start of a mission, and in and so many cases it does way more than than the sneaking arrange. You lot may every bit well be totally invisible half the time if you clamber around with the correct camo, letting you take out whole bases without anyone noticing you far easier and with less effort than simply silent footsteps.

I used the sneaking suit pretty much all the time, merely simply because I actually liked how it looked.

I guess if you but exercise night missions? Just used it like twice, in the solar day fourth dimension information technology was worthless

Depends on how you like to play apparently, some like having quiet footsteps then that they tin run around more easily, and some like the camo so they can't be seen every bit easily. And some like to switch information technology up and use both on occasion. It's a preference thing.

I'm using whatever I think looks cool with no regard to how information technology helps or hurts me.

And if I use the animal pattern I tin pretend this is an Enzo Amore game

I played most lx% of the story switching camo, but than I found the sneaking conform does a skillful plenty job, then I just switched to that.

Going in at dark with the sneaking conform pretty much makes the camo useless- in my experience it offers similar levels of concealment. Fifty-fifty during the 24-hour interval I felt it worked good enough when decumbent in grass, especially as you become apply to the A.I. and can abuse the range indicators to know at what range/stance they can "see" yous. Beingness able to drop downward and not accept the fall heard as well opens up some more paths of attack in certain bases, though yous could argue the same most the camo

Never ever ever ask if you lot're the only one.

I pretty much never used information technology. If yous picked the correct camo for the situation I found it to exist style more useful. Existence able to sneak up on guys slightly faster isn't that much of a game changer for me. I think @drewbert is limiting himself past non trying out the camo, desert play a trick on is really constructive in transitional islamic state of afghanistan!

I always deploy ASAP, and tend to stay in the field throughout the day/night cycle so I well-nigh never utilize the sneaking suit. Trading near invisibility for being able to crouch walk full speed isn't the best bargain in my opinion.

I used it about twice for the Total Stealth retreads at nighttime to remove any doubt most walking up to guys.

Rocked Desert Fob till I got Creature and at present its just generally all Animal, all the time, also boxing wearing apparel for any pitched combat situations.

I empathize with Dan'due south authoritative tone, because that'southward how I lean when speaking too, simply its selling a game short where you lot tin can be perfectly well equipped in Olive Drab with a squirtgun.

Yeah aforementioned. Like, there was essentially no deviation other than that I could at present sew to mfers. The enemies are pretty blind even in day fourth dimension then it's negligible.

@zedprime yeah animal is pretty damn nifty. Plus snake totally rocks the leopard print wait.

Yes, I always save the Sneaking Suit for major missions, it makes information technology feel way more than special and cool. I've only used it twice so far, I infiltrate at night along with D-Dog in his sneaking accommodate.

Nope. Used it for two missions. Didn't similar the way it looked, and didn't like the loss of camo. Had no problem slowing down a bit when creeping upwardly behind dudes. The loss of far range camo wasn't enough to outweigh beingness able to move a chip quicker.

I wouldnt have a trouble with the camo arrangement if it was like MGS3'south, simply it'south not. You accept to phone call in a supply drib every fourth dimension yous want to change camo, which is kinda dumb. I'd rather just utilise an all around decent adapt that gets the job done and has some decent perks. The stealth suit is that.

Costumes barely made a deviation in how I play so I but went off of fashion whims most of the time. Splitter with a scarf is cool, just the sneaking accommodate is pretty awesome.

Team Sneak Suit all the way.

Having to slowly inch your way behind guards is the worst.

I never wanted to become into the menus and change that stuff around, so I just stuck to the stealth adjust since for the regen/silent stride bonuses. Plus I played a lot of missions at night anyhow.

I never had any issues with getting spotted from miles away in the stealth conform in broad daylight, because I had a silenced tranq sniper for most of the game that I used to have everyone out before I got anywhere near the base.

I agree. I generally haven't had much of a demand to be "invisible," because I'm able to utilise cover and buildings to circumnavigate guard patrol paths. Basically, I'm never in guards' line-of-sight, so the silenced stealth-walk ends upwardly being a massive quality of life comeback. I like not having to pay conscious attention to the pressure level on the analog stick.

Mostly, I'm glad both tactics are effective. It'd actually be a huge disappointment if either the camo OR the sneaking accommodate were the definitive way to play.

The merely fourth dimension I used the Sneaking Accommodate was when I decided to become in at night on a rescue operation or something like that. Most missions I did ASAP and selected an appropriate camo, worked out smashing for me.

I could never be bothered to figure out which of the different camo types I might need for the upcoming mission, and anyway spent so much time sneaking up backside guards information technology made sense to be silent when doing it. I did most of my missions from 6am cause I prefer how the game looks in the daylight.

I usually did alright by reading the mission description and paying attention to where it was located. There were only a couple of times where I felt like I needed to do a supply drib in order to change out into some other set of fatigues.

I utilise it pretty much exclusively because I take had way more instances of guards picking up noise from me moving ever so slightly too fast versus picking me upwardly by sight. Non to mention, even if they run into yous, at that place'due south notwithstanding a good take a chance yous tin drop to the ground and slowly sneak away earlier they move in closer for inspection.

As others have said, I think it simply comes downwardly to your playstyle. Also, now that I take the Paw of Jehuty I probably should switch since I'm not sneaking up on guards nearly as much.

I always do night so sneaking suit is pretty much always used. I think that the only reason you lot would become and do shit during the day is if you wanted a challenge, I just can't see a reason to do daytime other than that reason.

I mostly only used information technology during night missions. Granted, there are certainly other advantages to night sneaking, but I did enough of 24-hour interval sneaking too. I too never used the Basis Zeroes sneaking suit. Not because I didn't take it, merely because it seemed like likewise powerful a thing to have that early in the game.

Sometimes I even went so far as to have camo air dropped in if a mission lasted all night, and went into the day. I definitely found my playstyle benefitted more from existence able to blend into the surroundings than having quieter footsteps. Too, the idea that having to move a little bit more slowly to non be heard whilst non wearing the sneaking adapt is some atrocious thing that y'all should avoid by using the sneaking suit all of the time just seems absurd to me. Also that'due south a poorly phrased sentence, merely you become what I mean.

Never bothered with the sneaking conform. Since I returned to the ACC betwixt missions I could easily switch out camo whenever I needed to. The red clay camo does wonders for most of Africa. For the footsteps I just didn't hold the stick fully in a management and never had problems with sneaking upward on people, even when they're moving.

Used the first camo you get for 45 hours until I realized "OH...I should probably go some sneaking suit"

Sneaking adapt for rescue missions where you lot're gonna accept to break from camouflaged positions and need to move quickly without beingness heard, ceramic armor for assault missions, camo otherwise.

Droping into the desert with a smurf onepiece didnt seem very appropriate simply i utilise it at present and so. Generally i go for effective camo.

I but used the sneaking suit because I liked being sneaky similar a samurai warrior, a.one thousand.a Large Boss.

I used the sneaking arrange and tiger stripe army camp almost exclusively.

I used to use information technology all the fourth dimension early game merely slowly sneaking upward on guys considering of sound is fashion more than fun plus I don't take to worry most the mission or side ops taking to long and extending into the forenoon. The controls and animation are and so sublime that slowly crouch walking feels incredibly easy to do. It'south actually one of the base control improvements that makes me fear replaying footing zeroes.

Sneaking suit looks too good for me to use annihilation else.

I use sneaking conform near exclusively because I prefer doing missions at night and I like the way it looks. I take used other suits when doing stuff like mine clearing or other not-combat missions considering information technology seems pointless to waste material the GMP on a huge loadout.

Night or mean solar day I seriously with camo could often crawl around in the middle of the open up with soldiers 5 feet in forepart of me never noticing me one-half the fourth dimension, but crawling effectually bases or everything with no one ever able to spot me, even if I did stuff that made them go on alert. Never is peradventure a strong word but I retrieve correct use of the camo is HIGHLY underrated, and can make such improve sneaking situations than the sneaking suit.

Heck even just in the almost recent metal gear scanlon[iii] I tin can conspicuously see tons of situations no guard would have even been suspicious in his direction if he wasn't wearing that silly black conform.

Don't get me incorrect, I used the sneaking suit a fair scrap likewise, merely very evenly with the other types of suits. I can't believe people write off the camo and then easily just for step sounds that are not even a big deal, when you tin oftentimes take neigh invisibility as a tradeoff. [heck, if you lot are sneaking upwardly on a guy with no silent footsteps, you tin simply take them out in melee form anyway through reflex mode as they plough around anyhow, you go shut enough anyway if yous really want to go that way earlier they hear you].

I actually used that Cheetah camo whatever it was called most of the game because of how constructive that camo was in so many places as well.

Well the upgraded sneaking suits also give you better wellness regen and other bonuses. That's pretty hard to pass up. I could meet the camo being useful, but when you don't really care about getting S-rank, it'southward much easier just to become for the sneaking suit every time.

I definitely used the sneaking suit for any story mission I expected to exist quite difficult, simply I spent the vast bulk of my playing time sticking with camo; still, that was generally because I preferred the aesthetics of the camo outfits over the sneaking suit.

Was property my head everytime Drew defenseless a baby-sit'southward interest and had to clamber around evading him. I was crouch-walking all over bases for the whole game with camo. And you tin totally still stitch and grab/slam guys before they get an alert off. I guess this volition get better as Drew gets more comfortable with guards (I hope). The lamest moment was in the second video, though. "He's a real DIAMOND Canis familiaris." *Zooms in on MSF logo*

@dezinus:

Yeh that part really sucked.

Or slow down a little when you become close to a guard, and they won't hear you just the same as with wearing the Sneaking Accommodate. Either way works but fine, fifty-fifty without Reflex manner turned on.

@Mike: You can besides keep your gun aimed at them when you approach and you lot volition hold them upwardly earlier they hear you. Or tell D-domestic dog to "keep them decorated" or whatsoever the command is while you lot sneak up.

Silent steps actually aint that usefull.

In normal camo, even crouching backside the enemy in normal speed would make them discover that there was someone behind them instantly and in certain situations it'd exist actually bad and so you'd have to employ the slower crouch walk speed to non make them notice and that would suck if you're trying to catch upwardly to a guard on a patrol route. With the sneaking accommodate on, the guy doesn't even observe even in normal hunker walk speed. If you're doing the mission at day time though it'd be an advantage to utilise the normal camo simply I'd just light upward a cigar to laissez passer the time or just drop in a mission at night anyways. Not blending in during day time with the sneaking adapt can be mitigated by just itch and I would employ the side roll if I wanted to movement faster.

The only other real reward that I could see in using the normal camo for me is that it's way cheaper to deploy just GMP isn't really a problem for me anyways. I'd take mobility over the partial advantage of darkening of the normal camo since I tend to get shut to guards a lot due to my playstyle (I stun/tranq EVERYBODY in an outpost in just about every mission).

Plus, I play with Reflex Mode turned off as well and then there'south also that.

@gaspower: Throw a magazine in forepart of the patroling baby-sit to take him break his patrol for a moment.

I think it appeals to people who don't want to think about things also much. The Sneaking Suit makes the game pretty easy, particularly at night. Then again, I turned Reflex Mode off towards the beginning of the game and never used it again, which probably isn't the norm. Information technology just made things manner also easy.

For people complaining that the combat is too piece of cake, definitely try playing without Reflex Mode on. Information technology near completely changes nearly encounters. Plus, you get extra points for non triggering Reflex during a mission if you care about that.

I only used the developable sneaking suit in missions which sounded super important or hard, office playing that Snake would take his best gear when he needed it :P, the faster healing is nice on the harder missions. I never used the suit from GZ because it looked out of place.
I used the appropriate camo for the bulk of the game, mainly because it looks cool, i wore a scarf in the desert but not in Africa, sneaking upward on enemies was never an issue because i'm skilful.

The health regen is a deal breaker for me. I don't even use the boxing dress exterior of Play tricks

It's a divergence betwixt "do I desire more arbitrary controller micro managment or less?" in which case for me the answer is always less as I don't relish throttling the analog sticks, like ever. Camo really ain't that useful either if yous sneak "practiced" equally in go on behind comprehend, roll, employ the environs. If you're crawling and then shut to a baby-sit from the front that y'all need camo to non be detected and so I'd say you're already sneaking wrong as you lot should always be angling to get behind guards, at which point camo is really pointless. So to flip the script a little: if y'all're good at sneaking, every bit in non itch right through enemy cones of vision all the fourth dimension, y'all don't ever need to worry virtually camo.

I'm with you OP